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Two different businesses from home - husband and wife Teak 03-15-2009
Posted by Teak on March 15, 2009, 8:53 pm
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Greetings -

My fiance and I are both self-employed. We work in different
professions. I am a freelance communications professional. He has his
own photography business. I have very few expenses. He has many big
expenses -- equipment, insurance for equipment, etc. and a separate
checking account set up for his business.

We are getting married and I want to create a joint checking account
for common/household expenses; however, we each deduct a portion of
these shared expenses (mortgage, property taxes, utilities) on our
individual taxes (Schedule Cs). What is the best way to do this? We
will file jointly next year. Can we pay these shared expenses from a
joint account and then each claim a portion for deductions on our
separate Schedule Cs (assuming there is no double dipping)?

Also - I assume he should keep his separate checking account to
account for his business, right?

Thank you.

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Posted by Paul Thomas, CPA on March 16, 2009, 7:40 am
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> My fiance and I are both self-employed. We work in different
> professions. I am a freelance communications professional. He has his
> own photography business. I have very few expenses. He has many big
> expenses -- equipment, insurance for equipment, etc. and a separate
> checking account set up for his business.
>
> We are getting married and I want to create a joint checking account
> for common/household expenses; however, we each deduct a portion of
> these shared expenses (mortgage, property taxes, utilities) on our
> individual taxes (Schedule Cs). What is the best way to do this?




You each should have separate checking accounts for each business and at
least one other joint account for personal non-business income to be
deposited into and personal expenses to be paid from.

At the end of the year you can pull the household expenses that relate to
the "home office" deductions from the joint personal account, leaving the
rest of the business accounting to be culled from each business checkbook.





> We will file jointly next year. Can we pay these shared expenses from a
> joint account and then each claim a portion for deductions on our
> separate Schedule Cs (assuming there is no double dipping)?
>
> Also - I assume he should keep his separate checking account to
> account for his business, right?




Right.






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Watkinsville, Georgia

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Posted by Steve Pope on March 16, 2009, 2:20 pm
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>You each should have separate checking accounts for each business and at
>least one other joint account for personal non-business income to be
>deposited into and personal expenses to be paid from.

>At the end of the year you can pull the household expenses that relate to
>the "home office" deductions from the joint personal account, leaving the
>rest of the business accounting to be culled from each business checkbook.

How important is this? My wife and I each run a business,
reported on Schedule C, but neight of us has ever had
a business checking account. We each maintain books that
contain business revenues and expenses, but we only have
one personal, joint, checking account and no other
checking accounts.

Is this problematical?

Steve

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Posted by San Diego CPA on March 22, 2009, 6:27 pm
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>
>>You each should have separate checking accounts for each business and at
>>least one other joint account for personal non-business income to be
>>deposited into and personal expenses to be paid from.
>
>>At the end of the year you can pull the household expenses that relate to
>>the "home office" deductions from the joint personal account, leaving the
>>rest of the business accounting to be culled from each business checkbook.
>
> How important is this? My wife and I each run a business,
> reported on Schedule C, but neight of us has ever had
> a business checking account. We each maintain books that
> contain business revenues and expenses, but we only have
> one personal, joint, checking account and no other
> checking accounts.
>
> Is this problematical?
>
> Steve

Separating business & personal accounts is vitally important.
Where you are self-employed, whether a small "side business",
your primary source of living or anything in between, you should
always have separate accounts used exclusively for business purposes
which separate your business and personal finances. The risk
of comingling business & personal assets/funds is that the IRS will
take the position that the expenditures are personal, not business. While
the burden of proof is always on the taxpayer, comingling asset
significantly increase the burden of proving business vs. personal
expenditures.

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Posted by Steve Pope on March 22, 2009, 8:12 pm
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>>>You each should have separate checking accounts for each business and at
>>>least one other joint account for personal non-business income to be
>>>deposited into and personal expenses to be paid from.

>>>At the end of the year you can pull the household expenses that relate to
>>>the "home office" deductions from the joint personal account, leaving the
>>>rest of the business accounting to be culled from each business checkbook.

>> How important is this? My wife and I each run a business,
>> reported on Schedule C, but neither of us has ever had
>> a business checking account. We each maintain books that
>> contain business revenues and expenses, but we only have
>> one personal, joint, checking account and no other
>> checking accounts.

>> Is this problematical?

>Separating business & personal accounts is vitally important.
>Where you are self-employed, whether a small "side business",
>your primary source of living or anything in between, you should
>always have separate accounts used exclusively for business purposes
>which separate your business and personal finances. The risk
>of comingling business & personal assets/funds is that the IRS will
>take the position that the expenditures are personal, not business. While
>the burden of proof is always on the taxpayer, comingling asset
>significantly increase the burden of proving business vs. personal
>expenditures.

Thank you.

Is this opinion backed up by experience from IRS examinations?
Say, if one client has a business checking account, and another
does not, and they both have adequate expense records otherwise
(receipts, contemporaneous records describing business purpose, etc.),
the second client loses out in the examination more than the first?

I'm very curious to know if this is an actual as opposed to a
theoretical concern. I write about three business-purpose checks
per year on our personal checking account and my wife writes none.
In addition health insurance is deducted from this account.
Am I exposed? It would be quite a hassle to set up two new
bank accounts that we don't really need and would barely use, transfer
money into them, etc.

Steve

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