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Unpaid Overtime vmoeller 03-17-2008
Posted by vmoeller on March 20, 2008, 12:40 am
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> > So, is there any way possible for me to deduct myunpaidovertimework
> > in November and December (6 weeks at 5 hrs/wk for 30 hours total,
> > times my hourly wage of $15/hr = $450)?  I owe $4,000+ to IRS this
> > year, and I desperately need deductions.
>
> Prior responses addressed this as a question regarding charitable
> contributions.  It sounds to me more like you're thinking of some sort of
> "opportunity cost" deduction against your other income.  In either case, the
> answer is no.
>
> Of more concern to me is the $4,000 balance due that seems to be a surprise
> to you.  Have you been making estimated tax payments to cover your teaching?
> Are you claiming too many withholding allowances at your W-2 jobs?  There's
> a structural problem in your tax planning that will pop up year after year
> if you don't fix it.
>
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> Clarksburg, MD
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Of more concern to me is the $4,000 balance due that seems to be a
surprise
to you. Have you been making estimated tax payments to cover your
teaching?
Are you claiming too many withholding allowances at your W-2 jobs?
There's
a structural problem in your tax planning that will pop up year after
year
if you don't fix it.

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Well, here's what happened, in a nutshell. This is my 2nd year
working as a high school choral assistant. For tax year 2006 (last
year), I ended up owing $2,000 because the district treated me as a
contractor and refused to withhold anything. I set aside some money
with each paycheck, so I was able to pay off IRS last April.

Trying to avoid this happening yet again, I set aside $200/mo last
fall plus some Christmas money my mother gave me, so I now have just
under $2,000 at this point (mid-March). However, I used TaxCut to do
my taxes, and lo and behold, the raise I got from the school district
put me into a higher tax bracket, so now I owe $4300. Last month, I
consulted my church's accountant, and she advised me to divide the
$4300 by 10 (there were 10 months remaining in this year) and adjust
my income checks accordingly by deducting at least $400 more per
month, so I got her to deduct $200 more per month from my church check
(I'm an organist there) and I called my state retirement agency and
got them to deduct $200 more per month from my retirement check.
Hopefully, I can also set aside another $500 or so just in case I need
to for taxes next year. I'm also planning on taking on piano
students, so I will need to set aside 20% of my self-employment
earnings from that venture to be right with IRS next year.

Thanks for writing.

vhm

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Posted by TheMightyAtlas on March 20, 2008, 8:38 am
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On Mar 20, 12:40 am, vmoel...@austin.rr.com wrote:

>
> Well, here's what happened, in a nutshell.  This is my 2nd year
> working as a high school choral assistant.  For tax year 2006 (last
> year), I ended up owing $2,000 because the district treated me as a
> contractor and refused to withhold anything.  I set aside some money
> with each paycheck, so I was able to pay off IRS last April.
>
> Trying to avoid this happening yet again, I set aside $200/mo last
> fall plus some Christmas money my mother gave me, so I now have just
> under $2,000 at this point (mid-March).  However, I used TaxCut to do
> my taxes, and lo and behold, the raise I got from the school district
> put me into a higher tax bracket, so now I owe $4300.  Last month, I
> consulted my church's accountant, and she advised me to divide the
> $4300 by 10 (there were 10 months remaining in this year) and adjust
> my income checks accordingly by deducting at least $400 more per
> month, so I got her to deduct $200 more per month from my church check
> (I'm an organist there) and I called my state retirement agency and
> got them to deduct $200 more per month from my retirement check.
> Hopefully, I can also set aside another $500 or so just in case I need
> to for taxes next year.  I'm also planning on taking on piano
> students, so I will need to set aside 20% of my self-employment
> earnings from that venture to be right with IRS next year.
>
> Thanks for writing.
>
> vhm
>

I think I see the problem. You effectively have three sources of
income (day job, retirement, and church), and the tax rates being
progressive, your tax rate on the second and third ones is much higher
than it would be if they were your only source of income.

You will probably have to have something like 30% deducted from each
of the retirement check and the church to avoid being under-withheld
each year. When you got your raise at the school, they had no way of
knowing that this would kick you into such a high bracket, because
they can't see your other income.

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