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can a non-profit show unpaid pledges as assets? jack 06-18-2008
Posted by Dick Adams on June 21, 2008, 1:41 am
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>>>> The case I could come up with on quick research for the California rule
>>>> is exemplified in Board of Regents v. Davis, 74 Cal.App.3d 862 (1977),

>>> In that case there was a quid pro quo, naming of a football stadium.
>>> Also, it was an action against the estate of the person who had made
>>> the pledge before kicking the bucket. The case seems to have revolved
>>> around whether the decedent was competent to have made the pledge.
>>> IOW, the heirs were trying to defeat the intent of the decedent and
>>> failed.
>>>
>>> I'm not persuaded that a California resident after having made a
>>> promise of a gift could not successfully renege on that promise.

>> Stuart is right. We learned it in law school, and I am not
>> going to do your legal research for you.

> <<Shrug>> I just love those "I know something you don't know"
> answers. Well, I learned just the opposite in my undergraduate
> commercial law class -- something about consideration in the
> chapter on contracts.

Actually they are both right. If you still have your contract
law text book, you can look it up. Stu is citing the case of
Davis who pledged $150K to his alma mater and they named the
football stadium after him. That's the quid pro quo. Upon
his death eight months later, his heirs wanted to renege.

Stu later mentions that California Courts are predisposed to
enforcing pledges even when they lack consideration.

> I haven't heard anything about William & Mary going to court
> to get the money pledged by people who reneged over the cross
> in Wren Chapel dust up. There were significant dollars
> involved (7+ figures to the left of the decimal point) unlike
> the next example.

For those who are unaware, a William & Mary alum withdrew a
$12M pledge after then President Nichol had the Cross in Wren
Chapel removed so that the Chapel would be "a welcoming place
for people of all faiths". Nichol is no longer President, the
Cross is now displayed on least Sundays, and there are some
elected officals is VA who are very pi$$ed off about this. As
for taking this to Court, it happened about a year and a half
ago and I am certain the Board of the University is engaged in
diplomacy with the alum.

> And, VCU didn't come after me when I changed employers and
> thus stopped having amounts pledged to them withheld from
> my paycheck.

Did VCU give you consideration for the pledge?
Did VCU take significant financial measures in reliance
on your pledge?

Going back to Contract Law, even verbal contracts are binding
when one party relies upon it to their financial detriment.

> But maybe Virginia law is different or maybe Virginia
> institutions have better sense than to try to enforce
> unfulfilled monetary pledges.

Neither is likely correct.

Dick

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Posted by Stuart Bronstein on June 21, 2008, 3:04 am
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rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:

> Stu later mentions that California Courts are predisposed to
> enforcing pledges even when they lack consideration.

Let's just say they'll find consideration where they can, even if it
wouldn't constitute consideration is a different kind of case. For
example I found more than one case that enforced a pledge when the
donor knew it was part of a project contributed to by other donors.
The consideration wasn't something given by the donnee, but the
promises of the other donors to make gifts to the same project.

It's not normal consideration because the donnee doesn't give anything
and the donor doesn't receive anything. But the other donors will
presumably be disappointed if someone's pledge is not satisfied.
That's all that's required. Sort of like saying that a contract is
enforceable simply because there is a third party beneficiary, even if
there is no consideration.

Stu

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Posted by Bill Brown on June 21, 2008, 8:01 am
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On Jun 21, 1:41 am, rdad...@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:
> Did VCU give you consideration for the pledge?

Well, I had a job there. The job ended when I resigned to take a
position at another institution.

> Did VCU take significant financial measures in reliance
> on your pledge?

Not that I'm aware of.

As I said in another post in this thread, if and when significant
dollars are ever involved, if I'm going to be treated as though I've
received consideration for my pledge then I will get consideration for
my pledge.

Regards,
Bill

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Posted by Dick Adams on June 19, 2008, 6:47 pm
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>> The case I could come up with on quick research for the
>> California rule is exemplified in Board of Regents v. Davis,
>> 74 Cal.App.3d 862 (1977),

> In that case there was a quid pro quo, naming of a football
> stadium. Also, it was an action against the estate of the
> person who had made the pledge before kicking the bucket.
> The case seems to have revolved around whether the decedent
> was competent to have made the pledge. IOW, the heirs were
> trying to defeat the intent of the decedent and failed.

Agreed.

> I'm not persuaded that a California resident after having
> made a promise of a gift could not successfully renege on
> that promise.

That is a legal question, not a tax question (de je vous).

While my legal knowledge is limited to passing the Business
Law section of the CPA Exam, my "guess" is that during the
lifetime of a person making a pledge, he/she would have
affirmative defenses to revoke the pledge. However, it is
my opinion with near certainty that unless he/she was
preparing to revoke the pledge at the time of death, the
estate would be unable to raise these defenses.

Considering Bill's an Accountant, I'm an Auditor, and Stu
is an Attorney, I have to side with Stu. This is in spite
of the fact that, unlike Bill and myself, Stu does not have
the benefit of a Chapel Hill education. ;)

Dick

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Posted by Stuart Bronstein on June 19, 2008, 6:58 pm
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rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote:

> While my legal knowledge is limited to passing the Business
> Law section of the CPA Exam, my "guess" is that during the
> lifetime of a person making a pledge, he/she would have
> affirmative defenses to revoke the pledge. However, it is
> my opinion with near certainty that unless he/she was
> preparing to revoke the pledge at the time of death, the
> estate would be unable to raise these defenses.

Pretty good opinion.

> Considering Bill's an Accountant, I'm an Auditor, and Stu
> is an Attorney, I have to side with Stu. This is in spite
> of the fact that, unlike Bill and myself, Stu does not have
> the benefit of a Chapel Hill education. ;)

You may have noticed that I did spend some time to research this a bit
more - yes I have better things to do but I feel like procrastinating
at the moment. The California courts actually do agree with Bill in
concept, though in practice their definition of "consideration" for
gifts to charity is considerably broader than in other cases, and they
can generally find some reason to enforce a pledge.

Stu

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