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cash basis or accrual MARTIN 09-25-2007
Posted by MARTIN on September 25, 2007, 11:40 pm
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I own a small automobile finance company and have to file
tax returns for the current year.

Someone told me I can use the cash basis in reporting the
income and someone else stated I must be on the accrual
basis, which is correct.

We loan money out at 15.99 % over a three year period,
sometimes we have a large amount of late payments that come
in. Should I be accruing the income or should I be a cash
basis taxpayer

Please help

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Posted by Benjamin Yazersky CPA on September 27, 2007, 2:37 am
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> I own a small automobile finance company and have to file
> tax returns for the current year.
>
> Someone told me I can use the cash basis in reporting the
> income and someone else stated I must be on the accrual
> basis, which is correct.
>
> We loan money out at 15.99 % over a three year period,
> sometimes we have a large amount of late payments that come
> in. Should I be accruing the income or should I be a cash
> basis taxpayer
>
> Please help

you should be able to be on the cash basis

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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on September 28, 2007, 3:59 pm
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Benjamin Yazersky CPA wrote:

>> I own a small automobile finance company and have to file
>> tax returns for the current year.
>>
>> Someone told me I can use the cash basis in reporting the
>> income and someone else stated I must be on the accrual
>> basis, which is correct.
>>
>> We loan money out at 15.99 % over a three year period,
>> sometimes we have a large amount of late payments that come
>> in. Should I be accruing the income or should I be a cash
>> basis taxpayer
>>
>> Please help

> you should be able to be on the cash basis

Then how should income be correctly determined without
accruing interest earned?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Posted by Mark Bole on September 27, 2007, 2:37 am
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MARTIN wrote:

> I own a small automobile finance company and have to file
> tax returns for the current year.
>
> Someone told me I can use the cash basis in reporting the
> income and someone else stated I must be on the accrual
> basis, which is correct.
>
> We loan money out at 15.99 % over a three year period,
> sometimes we have a large amount of late payments that come
> in. Should I be accruing the income or should I be a cash
> basis taxpayer

If you are a sole proprietor, you can choose your accounting
method on the first Schedule C you file. To change it later
requires jumping through a lot of hoops using IRS Form 3115.

Whether one accounting method is better or worse for you
depends, it's a good question for your accountant.

-Mark Bole

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Posted by Drew Edmundson on September 28, 2007, 3:59 pm
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> I own a small automobile finance company and have to file
> tax returns for the current year.
>
> Someone told me I can use the cash basis in reporting the
> income and someone else stated I must be on the accrual
> basis, which is correct.
>
> We loan money out at 15.99 % over a three year period,
> sometimes we have a large amount of late payments that come
> in. Should I be accruing the income or should I be a cash
> basis taxpayer

Interest income has special rules. There are the OID rules
under Sections 1271 to 1275 which effectively require you to
accrue interest income if qualified stated interest is not
paid at least annually. There are also the below market
interest rate rules under Section 7872 and the other
interest rules under 1276 to 1288.

However your overall method of accounting may still be cash
(assuming you otherwise qualify) but you still have to
comply with the special "accrual like" interest rules.

--
Drew Edmundson, CPA
Cary, NC

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