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"creative" suggestions for making child care a business expense Elizabeth 11-06-2006
Posted by Elizabeth on November 8, 2006, 2:44 am
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Scott wrote:

> Why not make the day care a business? Convert the room,
> hire a person to take care of her children and take in other
> children. One or two other children (depending on the ages)
> could set up a nice little side business. Look for someone
> who has a kid themselves who wants to work but stay close to
> her child. Even if you break even, you can deduct a lot of
> things that you couldn't do if you hired a babysitter.
> Probably going to be a W2 employee doing it this way.
>
> Just something to think about. Plus you could eventually
> grow it into a full time side business that gives you more
> contacts for your photo business.

Hmm... thanks Scott! I really like this idea. I'll pass it
along to my client and we can both mull it over for a while.

I wonder -- does anyone see anything wrong with Scott's
approach?


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Posted by Elizabeth on November 8, 2006, 2:44 am
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L K Williams wrote:

> What other things could be called necessary and paid by the
> business, so as to make them deductible? Maybe we should
> start a poll?

hmmm...

* business owner sets up secondary office in his home and
what used to be "communting miles" become "business miles"

* Sub-S Corp, owned by only one person, establishes
health-care insurance plan for families of employees, and
then employees only his own spouse, thus making his family
health care deductable for the business.

* Consultant deducts his lunches and dinners every day he
is servicing a client outside of his own office (i.e. "on
the road"), thus making many of his meals 50% business
deduction.

* office in home makes percentage of utilities, homeowners
insurance, repairs, rent (or depreciation) and maintenance
into business deductions (rather than non-deductible
personal expenses) + percentage of RE taxes and mortgage
insurance become business deductions which may or may not
have been deductible from personal return.

Isn't part of our job to help our clients structure their
businesses in such a way that they get the maximum legal
deductiblity of expenses?


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Posted by Harlan Lunsford on November 10, 2006, 2:02 am
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Elizabeth wrote:
> L K Williams wrote:

>> What other things could be called necessary and paid by the
>> business, so as to make them deductible? Maybe we should
>> start a poll?

> hmmm...
>
> * business owner sets up secondary office in his home and
> what used to be "communting miles" become "business miles"

I wouldn't dare try this one. Any business expense must be
ordinary and necessary, and if my Sub S corporation has a
primary office in town where all my clients are, there is
absolutely no reason for me to have another office at home.
I THINK this was tried once upon a time.

> * Sub-S Corp, owned by only one person, establishes
> health-care insurance plan for families of employees, and
> then employees only his own spouse, thus making his family
> health care deductable for the business.

what about the related party rules which would attribute
spousal benefits to the 2% plus owner? In short, this
sounds like a section 105 plan which is not for corporate
personnel.

> * Consultant deducts his lunches and dinners every day he
> is servicing a client outside of his own office (i.e. "on
> the road"), thus making many of his meals 50% business
> deduction.

"On the road" means out of town overnight. Meals while in
town, at your tax home do not qualify.

> * office in home makes percentage of utilities, homeowners
> insurance, repairs, rent (or depreciation) and maintenance
> into business deductions (rather than non-deductible
> personal expenses) + percentage of RE taxes and mortgage
> insurance become business deductions which may or may not
> have been deductible from personal return.
>
> Isn't part of our job to help our clients structure their
> businesses in such a way that they get the maximum legal
> deductiblity of expenses?

By all means that is our job, to use all legal means and tax
options for our clients.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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