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determine dependency netvoy 03-03-2008
Posted by netvoy on March 3, 2008, 1:10 pm
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How can you determine support for an incarcerated person? Does the
goverment provide support? Situation: on a possible claim of head of
household (a brother) paying house mortgage for inmate; can it be said
that incarcerated is a dependent of his (meeting the unmarried
status) on the relationship alone? Is it necessary to meet a support
test; if so how do you determine financial figures on this?
Is incarceration even if release date unknown a temporary absence?

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Posted by Alan on March 3, 2008, 10:22 pm
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netvoy wrote:
> How can you determine support for an incarcerated person? Does the
> goverment provide support? Situation: on a possible claim of head of
> household (a brother) paying house mortgage for inmate; can it be said
> that incarcerated is a dependent of his (meeting the unmarried
> status) on the relationship alone? Is it necessary to meet a support
> test; if so how do you determine financial figures on this?
> Is incarceration even if release date unknown a temporary absence?
>
The inmate would have had to live with his brother for more than
six months and would have to be a dependent of his brother. As
the government is providing all of his support, he could not be a
dependent.

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Posted by Seth on March 3, 2008, 10:50 pm
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>netvoy wrote:
>> How can you determine support for an incarcerated person? Does the
>> goverment provide support? Situation: on a possible claim of head of
>> household (a brother) paying house mortgage for inmate; can it be said
>> that incarcerated is a dependent of his (meeting the unmarried
>> status) on the relationship alone? Is it necessary to meet a support
>> test; if so how do you determine financial figures on this?
>> Is incarceration even if release date unknown a temporary absence?
>>
>The inmate would have had to live with his brother for more than
>six months and would have to be a dependent of his brother. As
>the government is providing all of his support, he could not be a
>dependent.

If he was incarcerated starting in the second half of the year, it's
quite possible he lived with his brother more than half the year, and
his brother provided more than half his support. (How would you
calculate the amount the government paid for his support, anyway?)

Seth

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Posted by Alan on March 3, 2008, 11:03 pm
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Seth wrote:
>> netvoy wrote:
>>> How can you determine support for an incarcerated person? Does the
>>> goverment provide support? Situation: on a possible claim of head of
>>> household (a brother) paying house mortgage for inmate; can it be said
>>> that incarcerated is a dependent of his (meeting the unmarried
>>> status) on the relationship alone? Is it necessary to meet a support
>>> test; if so how do you determine financial figures on this?
>>> Is incarceration even if release date unknown a temporary absence?
>>>
>> The inmate would have had to live with his brother for more than
>> six months and would have to be a dependent of his brother. As
>> the government is providing all of his support, he could not be a
>> dependent.
>
> If he was incarcerated starting in the second half of the year, it's
> quite possible he lived with his brother more than half the year, and
> his brother provided more than half his support. (How would you
> calculate the amount the government paid for his support, anyway?)
>
> Seth
>
You would use the fair rental value of a shared cell plus the
state's cost of meals, clothing, education, medical and dental
services, entertainment and security services. (:D

In reality, most states publish their cost per inmate. I don't
have it handy, but it all goes into a federal database that is
made public.

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Posted by Seth on March 4, 2008, 1:27 pm
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>Seth wrote:

>> If he was incarcerated starting in the second half of the year, it's
>> quite possible he lived with his brother more than half the year, and
>> his brother provided more than half his support. (How would you
>> calculate the amount the government paid for his support, anyway?)
>>
>You would use the fair rental value of a shared cell plus the
>state's cost of meals, clothing, education, medical and dental
>services, entertainment and security services. (:D

I'm not sure that security should count.

>In reality, most states publish their cost per inmate.

What does that have to do with "fair market value"?

Seth

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