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estimated Fed taxes? Jeff 04-28-2008
Posted by Jeff on April 28, 2008, 2:16 pm
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How much should I pay for estimated Fed taxes so that I do not owe a
penalty if my income next year is higher than in 2007?

Is it 100% of the amount of tax paid for 2007 or some other calculation?

Thanks.

Jeff

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Posted by Barry Margolin on April 28, 2008, 5:32 pm
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> How much should I pay for estimated Fed taxes so that I do not owe a
> penalty if my income next year is higher than in 2007?
>
> Is it 100% of the amount of tax paid for 2007 or some other calculation?

100% of your 2007 tax.

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Posted by Jeff on April 29, 2008, 12:30 pm
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>> How much should I pay for estimated Fed taxes so that I do not owe a
>> penalty if my income next year is higher than in 2007?
>>
>> Is it 100% of the amount of tax paid for 2007 or some other
>> calculation?
>
> 100% of your 2007 tax.

Thank you all.

I am retired and therefore do not have withholding, just estimated
payments.

Jeff

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If you receive a form 1099-R each year from an IRA or 401k or a
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can submit form W-4V to SSA.

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Posted by Bill on April 28, 2008, 5:41 pm
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Willliam@naol.com (Jeff) posted:

>How much should I pay for estimated Fed
>taxes so that I do not owe a penalty if my
>income next year is higher than in 2007?
>Is it 100% of the amount of tax paid for 2007
>or some other calculation?

This is not universally answerable with a simple statement, other than
that you should pay as close to the amount you will owe for "next year"
(i.e., 2008) as possible.

The traditional "safe harbor" applies to taxes which are _withheld_ --
and that would be to have the amount _withheld_ that is equal to 100% of
your previous year's total tax bill.

However, if you are paying only estimated taxes (rather than
withholding), the issue is more complex -- as there are periodic payment
benchmarks related to income realized within the various payment
periods. The full story is covered in Pub 505 -- but it would not be
unreasonable to suggest you will generally avoid penalties if your total
estimated tax payments are within $1,000 of your 2008 total taxes due,
and if your payments have been made in a timely manner throughout the
year (i.e., by April 15, June 15, Sep 15 and Jan 15, 2009), and all four
were roughly equal.

Again, I stress this is a simplification -- intended as a general
guideline, only.

Bill

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Posted by ed on April 28, 2008, 6:56 pm
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On Apr 28, 4:41 pm, an_ordinary_guy_...@hotmail.com (Bill) wrote:
> Willl...@naol.com (Jeff) posted:
>
> >How much should I pay for estimated Fed
> >taxes so that I do not owe a penalty if my
> >income next year is higher than in 2007?
> >Is it 100% of the amount of tax paid for 2007
> >or some other calculation?
>
> This is not universally answerable with a simple statement, other than
> that you should pay as close to the amount you will owe for "next year"
> (i.e., 2008) as possible.
>
> The traditional "safe harbor" applies to taxes which are _withheld_ --
> and that would be to have the amount _withheld_ that is equal to 100% of
> your previous year's total tax bill.
>
> However, if you are paying only estimated taxes (rather than
> withholding), the issue is more complex -- as there are periodic payment
> benchmarks related to income realized within the various payment
> periods.  The full story is covered in Pub 505 -- but it would not be
> unreasonable to suggest you will generally avoid penalties if your total
> estimated tax payments are within $1,000 of your 2008 total taxes due,
> and if your payments have been made in a timely manner throughout the
> year (i.e., by April 15, June 15, Sep 15 and Jan 15, 2009), and all four
> were roughly equal.
>
> Again, I stress this is a simplification -- intended as a general
> guideline, only.
>
> Bill

Bill: The "within $1,000 of" safe harbor is when you have
withholding only, not estimates as this poster is doing. The normal
equal and on time payments are 1/4 of last year's tax (110% of last
year if last year's AGI was over $150,000), or 1/4 of 90% of this
year's actual tax.

ed

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