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mistake in last year's deduction, wait for amend accepted first or not? jj3000 03-13-2007
Posted by jj3000 on March 13, 2007, 6:45 pm
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I was doing 2006 tax and found out in 2005 I deducted too
much on a certain item should have belongs to 2006
deduction. It is simple to work out the extra tax
liability and no ambiguity that I can think of.

Therefore for 2005 I received slightly too big of a refund,
1040X and 540X was prepared and I am ready to mail it in,
with 2 checks for the balance owe.

However, the 2005 state tax refund counts as income for my
2006 federal, and a 1099-G to remind you of this amount.
But this amount has changed as the result of above mistake.

I have almost completed my 2006 return now and wanting to
file it soon, I THINK the right thing to do is go ahead and
put in the amended amount as stated in this 540X so the 2006
gross income is properly adjusted. Will the IRS or State
think I made a mistake and reject my return because they
have not received my 1040X and 540X yet, and assume that I
didn't report the state tax refund amount in the current
1099-G.

Thanks in advance!

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Posted by Bob Sandler on March 14, 2007, 12:07 am
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> I was doing 2006 tax and found out in 2005 I deducted too
> much on a certain item should have belongs to 2006
> deduction. It is simple to work out the extra tax
> liability and no ambiguity that I can think of.
>
> Therefore for 2005 I received slightly too big of a refund,
> 1040X and 540X was prepared and I am ready to mail it in,
> with 2 checks for the balance owe.
>
> However, the 2005 state tax refund counts as income for my
> 2006 federal, and a 1099-G to remind you of this amount.
> But this amount has changed as the result of above mistake.

No, it didn't. The amount that you received in 2006 did not
change.

> I have almost completed my 2006 return now and wanting to
> file it soon, I THINK the right thing to do is go ahead and
> put in the amended amount as stated in this 540X so the 2006
> gross income is properly adjusted. Will the IRS or State
> think I made a mistake and reject my return because they
> have not received my 1040X and 540X yet, and assume that I
> didn't report the state tax refund amount in the current
> 1099-G.

That's not the way to handle it. On your federal return for
2006 you report the amount that you actually received in
2006, which is the amount on the 1099-G. On your federal
return for 2007 you will deduct the additional state
payment that you are making now, in 2007.

As a general rule, you report income and deductions in the
year they actually occur.

Bob Sandler

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Posted by Phil Marti on March 14, 2007, 12:22 am
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> I was doing 2006 tax and found out in 2005 I deducted too
> much on a certain item should have belongs to 2006
> deduction. It is simple to work out the extra tax
> liability and no ambiguity that I can think of.
>
> Therefore for 2005 I received slightly too big of a refund,
> 1040X and 540X was prepared and I am ready to mail it in,
> with 2 checks for the balance owe.
>
> However, the 2005 state tax refund counts as income for my
> 2006 federal, and a 1099-G to remind you of this amount.
> But this amount has changed as the result of above mistake.

No, it hasn't. 2006 is over, so anything that happens now
won't affect your 2006 return.

> I have almost completed my 2006 return now and wanting to
> file it soon, I THINK the right thing to do is go ahead and
> put in the amended amount as stated in this 540X so the 2006
> gross income is properly adjusted. Will the IRS or State
> think I made a mistake and reject my return because they
> have not received my 1040X and 540X yet, and assume that I
> didn't report the state tax refund amount in the current
> 1099-G.

No, it will be rejected because it's wrong. The payment
that you're making on the 2005 state amended return will be
a deduction on your 2007 return.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Posted by jj3000 on March 15, 2007, 1:28 am
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>> I was doing 2006 tax and found out in 2005 I deducted too
>> much on a certain item should have belongs to 2006
>> deduction. It is simple to work out the extra tax
>> liability and no ambiguity that I can think of.
>>
>> Therefore for 2005 I received slightly too big of a refund,
>> 1040X and 540X was prepared and I am ready to mail it in,
>> with 2 checks for the balance owe.
>>
>> However, the 2005 state tax refund counts as income for my
>> 2006 federal, and a 1099-G to remind you of this amount.
>> But this amount has changed as the result of above mistake.

> No, it hasn't. 2006 is over, so anything that happens now
> won't affect your 2006 return.

>> I have almost completed my 2006 return now and wanting to
>> file it soon, I THINK the right thing to do is go ahead and
>> put in the amended amount as stated in this 540X so the 2006
>> gross income is properly adjusted. Will the IRS or State
>> think I made a mistake and reject my return because they
>> have not received my 1040X and 540X yet, and assume that I
>> didn't report the state tax refund amount in the current
>> 1099-G.

> No, it will be rejected because it's wrong. The payment
> that you're making on the 2005 state amended return will be
> a deduction on your 2007 return.

Thank you for your replies. I don't know why I didn't think
of it this way. That was simple.

Question for 2007,

As I mentioned I will be mailing 2 checks that I now owe
(for 2005 federal and state) along with the 1040X and 540X
respectively.

So when I do the 2007 return next year, Do I have to keep
track of these payments myself and add it into schedule A
the line where it says "state and local tax"? Or will I
get a slip/form that will remind me of this amount.

I ONLY need to keep track the state tax payment caused by
this amendment, is this correct? The federal tax is paid
and that's the end of story?

Thanks!!

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Posted by Phil Marti on March 16, 2007, 1:31 pm
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> As I mentioned I will be mailing 2 checks that I now owe
> (for 2005 federal and state) along with the 1040X and 540X
> respectively.
>
> So when I do the 2007 return next year, Do I have to keep
> track of these payments myself and add it into schedule A
> the line where it says "state and local tax"? Or will I
> get a slip/form that will remind me of this amount.

You need to remember it. There won't be any reminder notice.

> I ONLY need to keep track the state tax payment caused by
> this amendment, is this correct? The federal tax is paid
> and that's the end of story?

Correct

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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