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mutual fund sale and reporting gsk 06-08-2006
Posted by Herb Smith on June 13, 2006, 10:48 pm
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Han wrote:

> I don't know about the OP, but I have to pay taxes on the
> cap gains and dividends for the tax year in which they are
> distributed. What can you do about those taxes?

Pay them, just like other nonpayroll income.

> Are they to be added to the basis?

If the capital gains distributions and dividends are reinvested (used
to buy additional shares), the amount is added to basis. Don't forget
to increase your share total by the appropriate amount.

> Somehow it seems that double taxation creeps in.

No, there is no double taxation in this. There might be if
you forget to add the amount of reinvestment to your cost
basis, however.

> Let's say:
> Cap gains/dividends reinvested in 2003 were $1000
> Taxes paid on that: $150
> This portion of stock sold in 2005 for $1500
> Straight cap gains on this is $500, but there was already
> $150 tax paid.
> Is the "net" cap gains now $350, or not?

No, the capital gain is $500. The tax you paid on the $1000
of reinvested dividends and capital gain distributions was
ordinary income tax on that income, but has nothing to do
with any subsequent capital gain on sale.

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Posted by Tom Russ on June 13, 2006, 10:48 pm
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Han wrote:

> I don't know about the OP, but I have to pay taxes on the
> cap gains and dividends for the tax year in which they are
> distributed. What can you do about those taxes?

Nothing. You just pay the taxes on the distribution.

> Are they to be added to the basis?

No. Only reinvested amounts are added to the basis.

> Somehow it seems that double taxation creeps in.

No, it doesn't. Adding the reinvested amounts to the basis
is all that it takes to avoid and double taxation.

> Let's say:
> Cap gains/dividends reinvested in 2003 were $1000
> Taxes paid on that: $150
> This portion of stock sold in 2005 for $1500
> Straight cap gains on this is $500, but there was already
> $150 tax paid.

The $150 tax was paid on the $1000 that was used to purchase
the reinvested shared. That is why you don't count the
first $1000 (the basis) when computing the capital gain.
Because that $1000 was already taxed money. The capital
gain tax is paid only on the $500 gain that had not yet been
taxed. No double taxation, and no double-counting of the
tax money, either.

> Is the "net" cap gains now $350, or not?

Not. The capital gains are $500, and that is the amount
used to determine any taxes that are due. Taxes paid on the
gains do not figure into the basis in any way whatsoever.

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